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Permit Parking Hearing for Perry Street to be Held November 12th

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** (Updated on 11/26/13 – Just in: The Transportation and Pedestrian Commission will not be holding a hearing on November 12th as planned. It has been deferred until the December 3rd meeting.)

The Transportation & Pedestrian Commission will hold a meeting on November 12, 2013 at 5 p.m. (Updated on 11/26/13 – Just in: The Transportation and Pedestrian Commission will not be holding a hearing on November 12th as planned. It has been deferred until the December 3rd meeting.) to respond to and to consider community requests for permit parking, including the proposed permit parking on Perry Street between West 3rd and West 5th Avenues and West 4th Street between Perry Street and Michigan Avenue. You may recall that a neighbor on Perry Street organized a petition and gained enough signatures to apply to the city to change the parking status on these streets to permit-only between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m., Monday through Friday. The initiative was the result of neighbors’ concerns regarding an influx of contractors from OSU that has resulted in an increase in litter, early morning noise, open container violations and a degrading of local residents’ ability to park near their homes, especially during the daytime hours.

A sufficient number of the signatures on the petition were found to be valid, and the city’s staff has conducted parking observations according to their procedures for permit parking. The petition and their parking observations will be brought before the Transportation & Pedestrian Commission on November 12, 2013 at 5 p.m (Updated on 11/26/13 – Just in: The Transportation and Pedestrian Commission will not be holding a hearing on November 12th as planned. It has been deferred until the December 3rd meeting.). The city’s process for responding to and considering community requests for permit parking includes public vetting and consideration. Public testimony can be provided at the commission meetings.

Some residents on surrounding streets including Vermont Place are concerned that this action will not resolve the issue and will instead only push the problem onto Vermont and the surrounding streets. At the October 16, 2013 Harrison West Society meeting, other residents voiced their concern with the petition in a broader context; they expressed discomfort with the idea that individual citizens can change the parking landscape of the neighborhood without discussion and feedback from other parts of the neighborhood and the society.

A society member brought the issue up during new business at the meeting and moved that the society send a letter to the city asking for a postponement while the society explores alternatives to a parking ban. A majority of the members in attendance agreed and voted to request the postponement. They felt that a flat-out ban was premature and would only push the problem elsewhere in the neighborhood without really resolving it. The goal of the letter is not to scuttle the proposed ban but rather an attempt to try to find a solution that will not push the problem elsewhere and that will not become an albatross that long outlasts the temporary problem it was designed to correct.

If you have an opinion on the pending parking ban, plan to attend the upcoming meeting. Details are below.

**(Updated on 11/26/13 – Just in: The Transportation and Pedestrian Commission will not be holding a hearing on November 12th as planned. It has been deferred until the December 3rd meeting.)

Transportation & Pedestrian Commission Meeting
Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 5 p.m.
50 West Gay Street, located at the intersection of Gay Street and Front Street
Metered parking is available nearby

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9 Responses to “Permit Parking Hearing for Perry Street to be Held November 12th”

  1. I live on Vermont Pl. Residents aren’t concerned about pushing the problem onto our street; it’s already there. We have called the city about the problem but we have encountered resistance. You people who believe this is temporary are fools. Wake up abd get a clue.

  2. Paul L, the green space to the west of Perry Street is not a public park…never has been.

    Jacri, the insinuation that the petitioners for the permit parking are not “being neighborly” by trying to “push” the problem to other streets is offensive. Only those who want the problem to remain on Perry and Fourth Streets (and not affect them) would try to obstruct this petition. And, OSU and Turner Construction were approached long ago to observe and understand the situation and their response was essentially “sorry.”

  3. I am concerned about this issue for the entire neighborhood. And to ‘push’ the issue to other streets isn’t very neighborly. Or a solution. Isn’t there a City community liasion person who could help with this issue? And involve OSU since it’s the OSU construction workers who it seems are at issue. Unfortunately these folks probably are just unaware of what’s going on. Educating the disruptive parties should be a start. Instead of throwing money at the permit process. Some renters in the neighborhood are respectful but may not be able to afford this additional cost.

  4. Hello-

    First, let me say I understand the frustration of not being able to find a parking spot near your home and the almost incessant noise that goes along with public street parking. I live in a busy south end neighborhood so I know what it’s like. It’s the deal we made when we bought our home. But I still don’t think you should restrict street parking by the park to permit only.

    Public parks are for everyone. I often drive to Perry Park–yes, sometimes very early in the morning; and no, I’m not loud at all; and my car is actually really quiet–to run along the bikeway. I live close to a very busy public park just south of downtown and sometimes I like a change of scenery.

    I get what it’s like when “outsiders” “invade” your otherwise peaceful neighborhood. But the truth is, they pay their taxes just like I do and should have open access to the park. By limiting street parking to permit only, especially in this situation, you’re actually restricting access to a public good: open space, green grass, and fresh air.

    Public parks are for all neighbors, those from across the street and those from across town.

    Warmly,

    Paul L.

  5. The City has long invited this type of initiative from its residents, and this particular permit process has followed all the required steps and has succeeded at every along the way.

    No reasonable person would oppose this permit request. Only those who want the problem to remain on Perry and Fourth Streets would try to obstruct this.

    Oh and BTW, anyone who believes that this issue is a “temporary” one and that construction at OSU will go away by the end of 2014 needs to wake up.

  6. @R Mangia
    Do you know how wrong you are? One person cannot request a parking permit. It took a lot of signatures to get the permit to where it is now. You obviously don’t live on Perry St. Cars fly up and down that street regardless of the amount of parked cars. It actually creates more of a hazard, I have to slowly creep out at intersections to see if cars are coming. Several times I almost collided with a car speeding down Perry St. It’s sad that you want to deny the residents of 4th Ave and Perry St. piece in quiet and safety because you are too lazy to get your own permit. Deal with it.

  7. R Mangia,
    You obviously don’t live on 4th or Perry. One person didn’t try to change the parking landscape. Over 60 percent of the residence did. That’s how many signatures it took to get the petition moving. I cannot wait for the problem to spill over to your street and you deal with this. Hope we don’t make you angry.

  8. First of all, I am the neighbor who organized the petition and, not that it matters, but I live on 4th Avenue not Perry St. Check your facts. Second, the problem already exists on Vermont, Michigan, etc. They either didn’t realize they could do something about it or didn’t bother. Third, to the residents who have “expressed discomfort with the idea that individual citizens can change the parking landscape of the neighborhood without discussion or feedback from other parts of the neighborhood and society”, I invite all of you to my front porch beginning at 5:10 AM every morning to hear the delightful sounds of loud mufflers, music and shouting. While you’re there, you can help clean up their trash they leave behind. Fourth, to R. Mangia who left the first comment, would you like the construction workers to continue to consume alcoholic beverages on the bed of their trucks during their lunch hour then urinate in Gatorade bottles leaving them on Perry in front of the daycare center?

  9. The permit process is flawed. One person can change an entire street by filling out the paper work. Until this is addressed let city hall know you are against this.
    I think the city needs to hold off on granting this permit as it stands. There are modifications that could be made. I am concerned Traffic on Perry will speed up due to less cars parked on both sides if the street. Remember we have a daycare on Perry. Also all this is doing is pushing cars a street over. And this will result in making your neighbors angry.

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